Pepsico did not have a woman in the senior ranks, nor a foreign-born person who was willing to think differently. indra nooyi it breaks even. We lose ten, twenty grand every year. But then the people who are working say, look, I’ll kick this back in, I don’t need to take this profit share. It’s very cooperative. john zorn leadership is hard to define and good leadership even harder. But if you can get people to follow you to the ends of the earth, you are a great leader.